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Line :: RE: What's the best Line to use for Bridles?

Author: R Moore
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:19 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 7

ae wrote:

For unsleeved dyenema bridle lines, Liros-DC is most excellent, plus it can be spliced. So, no knots needed.
For sleeved bridles, Liros DSL or liros PPSL. All those lines are extremly high quality and are used in paragliders. and certified for them So quality control is paramount on them.

Another option for a foil bridle is a vectran line, since it doesn't creeps noticeable unlike <a href="http://www.kitebuilder.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=30">Spectra</a>/dyeneema. But very hard to get.

What do you know of Dyneema SK78 and the differences between it and Dyneema SK65, SK75 and Spectra 900 and Spectra 1000 with respect to creep? Do these lines need to have continuous tension applied over days or weeks at over 40 deg C to show significant creep?
Do Dyneema SK 75/Spectra 1000 lines show much creep if intermittent and variable loads are applied at sub 30 deg temp?

Thanks,

Bob
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BOB MOORE

What's on your mind? :: RE: When will Kite Squid crack 10K posts?- a contest.

Author: KiteSquid
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:05 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 316

WOW another 5K posts from me.......

Now I have to try to figure out the GRAND PRIZE.........................

Polo,

Is there anything you could tell me that might help me figure out what the prize should be?????
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA

PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn�t he ever shut up?

PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.

PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.

PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur.

PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors.

Cool Links :: RE: Uses for PVC Pipe

Author: Russ Mozier
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:58 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 4

Here's the link to part one of their uses for PVC pipe just in case you missed it http://www.pvcworkshop.com/freePVCplans.htm

Notions :: RE: shelf life for 3M 9460 tape?

Author: KiteSquid
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:57 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 27

reynolds5520,

Thanks for the feedback. It looks like you confirmed my suspicions.

BTW too much heat will cause RSN to have issues..... this is from personal experience.

My no sew kites I make in the summer seem to be better and take less time to build than the ones I make in the summer. I has to be due to the ambient temperature of the KiteCavren.
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA

PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn�t he ever shut up?

PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.

PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.

PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur.

PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors.

Line :: RE: Bridle Line (Problem Solving, Tensile Calculations, Suggest)

Author: KiteSquid
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:54 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 50

kandrey89 wrote:

I stuck around and they allowed me to check out the kite construction.

Like Pumpkin said, this is a GREAT way to see alternative construction techniques. I try to look at as may kites as I can to learn.......

GREAT STUFF HERE!!!!!!!
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA

PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn�t he ever shut up?

PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.

PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.

PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur.

PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors.

What's on your mind? :: RE: 17,000 ft or bust

Author: KiteSquid
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:49 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

Good luck and good winds to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please report back on your results!!!!!!!! I know you will!
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA

PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn�t he ever shut up?

PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.

PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.

PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur.

PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors.

What's on your mind? :: 17,000 ft or bust

Author: R Moore
Subject: 17,000 ft or bust
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:05 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

We are back at Cable Downs in western NSW, Australia for another series of high altitude flights with big DT Deltas. This time I have requested a zone for 15 days rather than 7 as for I had for previous attempts. This should double my chance of getting the right conditions. My 12,270 meters of new Dyneema line arrived a few days ago, custom made by Cousin in France with raw fibre supplied by DSM in Holland. It's great line and I trust the quality control so won't bother doing a dry lake pull test as I did with the Taiwanese Dyneena line. I don't have the time anyway. The trailers modified, the winch rebuilt and backup kites and equipment are ready. I have 3 reels of line and 4 kites so plenty of gear to cope with losses.
The line as delivered by Cousin-Trestec. The red line is 186 lb Dyneema braid 0.7mm diam and the white, 292 lb Dyneema braid, 0.9 mm diam. It took 3 hours to load it on the big reel in the trailer, white line first with 100mm splice joining them.

The line is layed with a traversing line guide driven by a windscreen wiper motor. The line tension is about 1 lb and the reel sides 4mm aluminum and no evidence of distortion from lateral pressure from the line.

The trailer has a few more mods since this pic. More sponsorship and I need to give the sponsors better exposure. Today I had a photo shoot with the Daily telegraph, a major Sydney newspaper. Flying the big DT Delta by hand for 1/2 hour took some energy while trying to hold a smile and not a grimace. . The story is published on Monday 15th.
Here is a link to an article in the Dubbo Liberal yesterday.
http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/news/local/news/general/kite-gets-green-light-to-soar-over-cobar/1773058.aspx
Unfortunately Trevor (AKA MotoTrev) can't come as his home and car were damaged by storms and big hail stones. I hope you get things fixed up quickly Trev.
I'll keep you all informed of developments, especially if we break the record. We are trying for 15,000 ft plus on a record of 13,609ft.

Bob
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BOB MOORE

Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Jordan 200 Pre Cut Project

Author: Pumpkin
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 579

Mrhide wrote:

you don't need additional tables!!

the diner table will do fine:

There's two kids in there somewhere as well
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Pete
Where did you say the string goes?

Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Jordan 200 Pre Cut Project

Author: Mrhide
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:37 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 579

you don't need additional tables!!

the diner table will do fine:

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Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Jordan 200 Pre Cut Project

Author: DMF
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:56 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 579

I agree with powder these big kites are very impressive, and perhaps infectious.....might have to buy some portable tables! Nice work. Can't wait to see her fly.

Multi Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: GUAL 1.7m^2 - Foil Traction Kite - Project Stage [PLAN]

Author: kandrey89
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:12 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 4

Steve's
12x WEB638 Edge Binding Straight: 0.38" - Color Black $6.96

10x WEB675 Edge Binding Straight: 0.75" - Color Black $8.50

1x TAP15 Double Faced Tape - 1/4" $6.75
6x FRNC75B HTOR Challenge .75 oz. Second - Hot Orange $27.00
4x FRNC75B BLK Challenge Elite .75 oz. Second - Black $18.00

Sub-Total: $67.21

Hang-Em High (My choice, because they end up selling Spectra in bulk spools cheaper #50 for $26 and #300 for $100)
35x SL150 Spectra1000 - 150# Natural 150# $0.08 $2.80
35x SL200 Spectra1000 - 200# NATURAL 200# $0.10 $3.50
250x SL50 Spectra1000 - 50# Natural 50# $0.06 $15.00

Sub-Total $21.30

OR

Goodwinds
Braided Spectra: 057193 Braided Spectra Line: Strength: 50#;Length: 100ft *$5.29
Flying Line: Braided Spectra: 057232 Braided Spectra Line: Strength: 50#;Length: 150ft *$5.99
Flying Line: Braided Spectra: 057197 Braided Spectra Line: Strength: 200#;Length: 100ft *$9.49

Goodwinds Sub-Total: $20.77

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This is order I'm planning to make, the line lengths are for this kite only, I would of course be ordering more line because it's cheaper in volume for my 6.5m^2.
The above should allow me to construct the kite foil with bridle lines, but without handles or flying line.

Including Shipping and tax and etc, I'd estimate the above orders would cost ~$120 for the 1.7m^2 kite. Oh... I didn't even include the sleeving kit! So add that too... to sleeve spectra bridle line.

I've finalized my orders for both kites, and I'll be ordering soon, so I can start cutting and sewing.
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NPW9b 3.1 m
GUAL Foil 1.7 m
GUAL Foil 6.5 m
Smith-Lock Knot
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Andrey

Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Forum Friendship Kite Project

Author: Pumpkin
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:26 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 90

Keep going Jason

Where ya going to fly her ????
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Pete
Where did you say the string goes?

Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Forum Friendship Kite Project

Author: themax
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 90

All edge binding is complete! I always feel good when edge binding is done.
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Invention, my dear friends, is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% butterscotch ripple. --Willy Wonka

Single Line Kite Design & Construction :: RE: Jordan 200 Pre Cut Project

Author: reynolds5520
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:27 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 579

Another circle half completed tonight, so all the top skins are now done.

With just a bit of luck I will be assembling the kite this weekend.
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Kevin R

Recently Completed:
Pit Bull Dog Feb, 2009
Red White and Blue Kiteguy Pit BullDog Apr, 2009
a pile of sand anchors
NYKE One Piece Cody Workshop
NYKE project Happi Coat - just waiting for the collar embroidery

Now on the table:
Bargello Jordan 200 Airform

Next up:
Papillion applique then a 3 stack of Ryv 1.6

What's on your mind? :: RE: When will Kite Squid crack 10K posts?- a contest.

Author: reynolds5520
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:24 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 316

polo wrote:

I think we should repeat this contest for every 5000 to come.

Good idea!
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Kevin R

Recently Completed:
Pit Bull Dog Feb, 2009
Red White and Blue Kiteguy Pit BullDog Apr, 2009
a pile of sand anchors
NYKE One Piece Cody Workshop
NYKE project Happi Coat - just waiting for the collar embroidery

Now on the table:
Bargello Jordan 200 Airform

Next up:
Papillion applique then a 3 stack of Ryv 1.6