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MarkS
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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Location: Sackville, NB Canada
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 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: Spar recommendations |
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| stevef wrote: | Gary, in your plan, you recommend the Prospar 19 and 16 for the frame. Trouble is, they are no longer available. Can you make an alternative recomendation?
I get a lot of people emailing me with this question and I make my own suggestion, but I'd like to hear it from the horses... eh um kitebuilders mouth.
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Did Gary give you an answer on this Steve? I'm thinking of building a rok using this (Gary's) plan.
Thanks,
Mark. |
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KiteSquid
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Joined: 29 Aug 2003
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Location: USA Virginia King George
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Premier Kites usese Skyshark P300's in their 78" (6' 6") rokkakus.
They also use Solid Graphite Rod for the furreles.
I have not broken a frame in one and I use them to battle with, so I am quite hard on them......
Yes the Carbon tubes are more expensive than the pultruede fiberglass, but they do make the kite quite a bit lighter, so it will fly in less wind.
I have gone to useing SkyShark Px00 series tubes for 90% of my kite building needs as IMHO they are an outstanding product and they all take an 0.240 internanl furrle, so I only have to have one size on hand....
If you want to use Fiberglass you could use the RET505 tube from THIS PAGE of Steve's catalog, with the RET414 tube as an internal furrele as the RET505 has an ID of 0.418" which is a 0.004 clearace. It is not much and I have had to sand the OD of the RET414 to make it fit as there was some wide tollarance in the factory the day my tubes were made........
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AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
PS Yet another post by the Squid...  Doesn’t he ever shut up?
PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.
PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.
PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur. x10K
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MarkS
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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Location: Sackville, NB Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| KiteSquid wrote: |
I have gone to useing SkyShark Px00 series tubes for 90% of my kite building needs as IMHO they are an outstanding product and they all take an 0.240 internanl furrle, so I only have to have one size on hand....
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Thanks Harold! This is great advice.
Cheers,
Mark. |
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stevef
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KiteSquid
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Location: USA Virginia King George
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Oh...
IIRC, Charlie Dunton told me that trick to use the 505 for the vertical spar, the 414 for the spreaders, and use the parts you cut off the 414 for the furrle, but the furrles you have in the catalog are probally a better solution as there would be more clearacne to get them in..........
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn’t he ever shut up?
PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.
PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.
PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur. x10K
PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors. |
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KiteSquid
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Location: USA Virginia King George
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| MarkS wrote: | | KiteSquid wrote: |
I have gone to useing SkyShark Px00 series tubes for 90% of my kite building needs as IMHO they are an outstanding product and they all take an 0.240 internanl furrle, so I only have to have one size on hand....
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Thanks Harold! This is great advice.
Cheers,
Mark. |
I buy my SkyShark Px00 tubes in bulk much to MrsSquid's dismay 'cause I never know what kite I will build next.
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn’t he ever shut up?
PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.
PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.
PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur. x10K
PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors. |
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StringDriver
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| KiteSquid wrote: |
'cause I never know what kite I will build next. |
Hmmm...
What have you built LATELY? 
You've built some very nice kites, but I don't recall what you built last... 
Perhaps it's time, mi amigo !  |
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KiteSquid
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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You guys are right.... I have been slacking!!!!!
I will be attending the Maryland Kite Socitey's workshop on President's Day Weekend.
I plan on cutting out some sails for some Indoor Tirips kites (quad line)
I aslo want to try to learn some direct application of color techniquies from Susan Lennon, one of the instructors at the workshop.
It should be a good time!!!!
I NEED to make some kites to give away to the Sharone Giant Kites Club members that are comming to be in the Cherry Blossom festival in April.....
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KiteSquid
AKA TakoIka
AKA Harold
King George VA
PS Yet another post by the Squid... Doesn’t he ever shut up?
PPS The wind is like the air, only pushier.
PPPS All information provided is for hobby use. None may be used commercially.
PPPPS Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur. x10K
PPPPPS Please excuse my speling errorors. |
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stevef
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Draftnik
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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Location: N. Illinois
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I should mention that we bridled our Rok using Engvalls plans. 
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