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stringystuff



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Fade/UV protection for fabric Reply with quote

In the past, somewhere, I saw a discussion about spray can products that
could help to prevent rapid fading of fabric.
Now that I need something I cant find a product or the article anywhere.
I have a couple of line-laundry items that fit a theme with the kite and
they are know to fade quickly. It would be great if I could find the product
that would help to extend the life of the colors.
Thanks for your help, Roger
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of people that spray their kites with a sunlight fade protection. One example is Krylon® Outdoor Spaces™ UV Fabric Protector.

Scotch Guard is also supposed to work. I think it would be easier to find. Maybe WalMart?

Even more important, use a good pair of polorized sun glasses. The faded kites and laundry can be replaced, but not your eyes!

Sun block for your skin is also VERY important.

(I use SPF 45, and dorky looking polorized glasses (Seen in my avater) that fit over my regular glasses.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dave,
That looks like what I was looking for.
Yes, I agree on the sunglasses and sun block.
Now what can I do about all this heat!!! Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StringyStuff....

Head down to your local camera store that does digital image printing, or check some of the large internet photo stores.

Either should carry UV protection sprays that are used for adding uv protection to ink jet prints to help prevent fading due to UV light.

Not sure if Ripstop nylon would adsorb this type of anti-UV spray, but it's worth a shot.

I have a product made by Sureguard. It's a #941 photographic lacquer with UV inhibiter. matte finish. Again, I've never used it on Ripstop, but have used it on photos.

I'm sure there are similar products are just UV protection without the lacquer base.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a LONG discussion over at GWTW Fourms about UV protectants, and the one that comes to mind was 303 brand....


CLICK HERE to go to the 303 website.

AND on that page, for $5 shipping you can get a sample of some of their products!!!!!!! I might just get some myself.


BTW I have NOT tried any fabric protetant on any of my kites.......
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile I also don't, as a rule, use UV protection on my kites. After all, it's just a kite.

However, I have used ArmorAll on boat sails.

Helps repell moisture in addition to adding the UV protection.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I found the original thread that I remembered seeing in the past.
It is on GWTW forum, Kite Building Repair thread, "Armorall" topic.
The 303 protectant, avail. at West Marine appears to be the best of
the choices.
I am not planning to use this on kites. I have 2 or 3 wind sock Fishes
that are known to fade very quickly. the yellow and orange colors just
turn to white. These pieces are part of a display and it will be good to
get longer life out of them.
Thanks everyone. Roger
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let us know how it works in the long run!!!!!!!

Is it worth the expense???? etc....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to use the 303 protectant on my 5 1/2 meter 12 point Double Star.
The sail is 264 panels made with 34 sq. yds of 3/4 oz RSN. Two colors . The panels on the outer locations were starting to get wind worn meaning the fabric was getting whimpy. I also had a concern that the light blue panels were starting to fade. I purchased a quart of 303 in the spray pumper.
I sprayed the fabric directly and saturated the panels. Once wet I imediately wiped the excess off so the application was even. I continued the process using the same wipe rag. The kite was assembled and the sail stretched more than ever before. (never had it soaked in the rain) I let the sail dry in the sun and it went back to normal size.
The sail has a uniform sheen , not tacky , the whimpy panels now have a little crisp.The color of the light blue is closer now to the origional color. I flew the treated kite last weekend at the shore on the beach. Sand does not stick to the sail. Water beads off , I know that because it was blistering hot and my sweat drips rolled right off the sail Just like rain "X" on a windshield. The total job for 34 sq. yards took 1 1/2 qt's. I figure I lost 1/2 pt into the air and 1/2 pt in my wipe rag. At this point I am pleased with the results. I plan to test a scrap peice of pink RSN treated and un-treated to see the UV protection if any.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any long term results of the 303 use that anyone can report on?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is another product for fabric treatment. I don't know what its UV characteristics are, but it can be used to make flying lines slippery. One thing it DOES do is make sail material MORE resistant to wind leakage and water absorption.

SailKote.

I think (among others) that Jamestown Distributors carries it, and has a FAQ/instructions page on their website.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwmeek wrote:
There is another product for fabric treatment. I don't know what its UV characteristics are, but it can be used to make flying lines slippery. One thing it DOES do is make sail material MORE resistant to wind leakage and water absorption.

SailKote.

I think (among others) that Jamestown Distributors carries it, and has a FAQ/instructions page on their website.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAac35Yulhg
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't mention UV protection or color fading which seems to be the focus of this topic. I really don't know about those functions. I first heard of it as a slip-maker for people who like to put 20 wraps in their quad-lines. It might make bridles easier to untangle. OTOH, it might let knots get pulled REALLY tight.

Also no mention of making fabric less air-leaky (porous).

I have also heard of it being used as a snow-plow anti-stick coating and the same for the insides of snow-blowers. (What's THAT doing on KiteBuilders?) Rolling Eyes
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