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[powder_pig]

I am thinking of a simple circle kite that has three primary drogue shapes built into the face of the design.



I have two questions.

1. Do you think it will be stable enough to fly without tumbling?

2. Will there be enough air flow through the drogues to keep them inflated?

As it sits now the sail will be about 43" in diameter. The drogues about 40' long.
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Ron

It's sunny and windy in the summer and cold and snowy in the winter...this must be what heaven is like.

[mototrev]

I can only comment on the design!

I love the simple geometric shapes Black background, primaray & some secondary colours!

Random patten of geo shapes. Looks like what I had in mind for the next kite

Trev-(R)
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[Pumpkin]

Absolutey no idea.

A round kite with tails will fly

tube tails will stabilise

But these are acting near to the centre of the kite so will be imparting drag and I don't know how much stabilisation they will give

IF you were to turn the tubes parallel to the kite sail just after the opening and fix to TE of sail, they would give stabilty and flight would work..... how well ? Dunno but better then without acting on the TE,

As for inflation...if more air goes in front then can escape from the rear, they will inflate
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Pete
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[snowykite]

The only might be a problem is the square tube above the centreline as it is putting drag above the centre of pressure, but this may be cancelled out by the 2 below.

JMHO
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[planish]

Huh. That's new.
I would worry about airflow over the back of the kite. Will the tails mess up the lift?
If it does fly (big if) suspect the red and blue ones will get bent up a little ways back from the kite. Maybe.

The only thing I can compare it to is my wife's first kite, which was a diamond with fringes (each as long as the kite itself) all along the trailing edges. The upper ones would twist around the back, from the wingtip vortices. The first version had a bow tension line and within seconds of launch, those upper fringes would be wrapped a dozen times around the tension line. We switched to using a dihedral, and that fixed that problem. Even so, the first time it flew in a bit stronger winds the upper fringes got tangled and knotted up with each other behind the kite.
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"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." (Wash, in Serenity)
ToDo list: hand shadow bird graphic on a Dopero; Urban Ninja; Marilyn Monroe portrait kite; another One-Piece Cody; Cody Box; Catherine's Wheel; Dave Wadeson's "Mouse", Manga Multiconos.

[powder_pig]

"I would worry about airflow over the back of the kite."

I think you may be right about the turbulence of the vortex formed by the air stream around the kite. I had thought of putting a dihedral line (horiz) across the back of the sail but the sail would really have to be anchored to the frame to allow it to bend without it ovalizing (if that is a word) the sail...

Hmmmmm...the other thing is it would probably fly (if) at a much less angle of attack than the illustration.

Well...I'm working on another version.
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Ron

It's sunny and windy in the summer and cold and snowy in the winter...this must be what heaven is like.

[CJQ]

My guess the kite will fly with the same characteristics as a Cobra kite. Even though the tails are different. MHO

CLIFF

[powder_pig]

[powder_pig]

What do you think about this. It's kind of like a snowflake but bigger and not as complicated.



Do you think it would have enough lift?
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Ron

It's sunny and windy in the summer and cold and snowy in the winter...this must be what heaven is like.

[planish]